WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.567 Rescue workers continue to search 2 00:00:00.567 --> 00:00:05.367 for survivors. U.S. 3 00:00:05.367 --> 00:00:09.868 authorities are moving quickly to find who committed the act. 4 00:00:09.868 --> 00:00:14.067 They're pursuing leads in Massachusetts and Florida and 5 00:00:14.067 --> 00:00:18.200 Rhode Island. 6 00:00:18.200 --> 00:00:22.167 It was learned today and said today that the White House and 7 00:00:22.167 --> 00:00:25.400 Air Force One may have been targets in the attacks. 8 00:00:25.400 --> 00:00:28.567 President Bush spoke after a national security meeting this 9 00:00:28.567 --> 00:00:31.801 morning, declaring yesterday's events to be 10 00:00:31.801 --> 00:00:35.133 acts of war. Pres. 11 00:00:35.133 --> 00:00:38.601 >>GEORGE W. BUSH (R): This is an enemy who preys on innocent and 12 00:00:38.601 --> 00:00:41.901 unsuspecting people, then runs for cover. 13 00:00:41.901 --> 00:00:44.400 But it won't be able to run for cover forever. 14 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:46.868 This is an enemy that tries to hide, but it won't be able to 15 00:00:46.868 --> 00:00:49.367 hide forever. 16 00:00:49.367 --> 00:00:51.834 This is an enemy that thinks its harbors are 17 00:00:51.834 --> 00:00:54.334 safe, but they won't 18 00:00:54.334 --> 00:00:57.200 be safe forever. 19 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.100 This enemy attacked not just our people, but all freedom-loving 20 00:01:00.100 --> 00:01:02.534 people everywhere in the world. 21 00:01:02.534 --> 00:01:05.000 The United States of America will use all our resources to 22 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.567 conquer this enemy. 23 00:01:07.567 --> 00:01:10.234 We will rally the world. 24 00:01:10.234 --> 00:01:12.767 We will be patient. 25 00:01:12.767 --> 00:01:15.567 We will be focused. 26 00:01:15.567 --> 00:01:18.501 And we will be steadfast in our determination. 27 00:01:18.501 --> 00:01:21.634 Tonight, as new facts become known and new 28 00:01:21.634 --> 00:01:24.801 questions arise, we continue our consideration of this national 29 00:01:24.801 --> 00:01:28.000 tragedy, a tragedy that has been marked by extraordinary acts of 30 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.367 human drama and human courage and heroism. 31 00:01:31.367 --> 00:01:34.400 We consider the international dimensions and the congressional 32 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.200 response with the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations 33 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.801 Committee, Democrat Joseph Biden of Delaware. 34 00:01:40.801 --> 00:01:47.501 Senator, thank you for coming. Sen. 35 00:01:47.501 --> 00:01:50.467 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Happy to be here, Charlie. 36 00:01:50.467 --> 00:01:53.367 Tell me what you think the Congress might do in 37 00:01:53.367 --> 00:01:59.100 response to this tragedy. Sen. 38 00:01:59.100 --> 00:02:01.767 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Well, I think the first thing it's going 39 00:02:01.767 --> 00:02:04.434 to do, Charlie, is continue to fully support the president. 40 00:02:04.434 --> 00:02:07.133 He has incredible assets available to him to move against 41 00:02:07.133 --> 00:02:09.267 the perpetrators of this-- these incredible acts of terrorism. 42 00:02:09.267 --> 00:02:11.434 We're narrowing down very clearly who the targets may be. 43 00:02:11.434 --> 00:02:13.567 But one of the things the president has done and Secretary 44 00:02:13.567 --> 00:02:15.734 Powell has done that I think has been masterful 45 00:02:15.734 --> 00:02:17.868 so far is for the 46 00:02:17.868 --> 00:02:20.801 first time in our history, Charlie, NATO has voted that 47 00:02:20.801 --> 00:02:23.868 this is what we call in the jargon an Article 5 issue, which 48 00:02:23.868 --> 00:02:26.934 means that it is viewed as an attack 49 00:02:26.934 --> 00:02:30.000 against the entire alliance. 50 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:33.033 And the one way to ultimately deal a blow to this kind of 51 00:02:33.033 --> 00:02:36.067 organized terrorism in the world is multi-laterally and 52 00:02:36.067 --> 00:02:39.100 internationally with all parties involved. 53 00:02:39.100 --> 00:02:42.000 And I want to congratulate Secretary Powell and the 54 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.868 president for getting this passed through NATO. 55 00:02:44.868 --> 00:02:47.534 They're working very closely with moderate Arab states, the 56 00:02:47.534 --> 00:02:50.234 Chinese and the Russians to build a consensus that when we 57 00:02:50.234 --> 00:02:52.801 strike, we not only strike ourselves-- if we need, we will 58 00:02:52.801 --> 00:02:55.200 strike alone. 59 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:57.767 But when we strike back, we will strike with the world behind us 60 00:02:57.767 --> 00:03:00.200 and literally with the possibility of other forces 61 00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:02.801 behind us. 62 00:03:02.801 --> 00:03:05.300 And so I think this doesn't mark an end to the way of life 63 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:07.834 for Americans. 64 00:03:07.834 --> 00:03:10.601 I think this has the potential to mark the end of the way of 65 00:03:10.601 --> 00:03:13.634 the life for organized terrorism in the world. 66 00:03:13.634 --> 00:03:17.234 Do I hear you saying that you believe that 67 00:03:17.234 --> 00:03:20.934 countries in addition to NATO, like Russia, like China, like 68 00:03:20.934 --> 00:03:24.234 moderate Arab countries, like Egypt, like Jordan are on board 69 00:03:24.234 --> 00:03:27.200 for a-- for a united strike against whoever might be 70 00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:30.534 identified as responsible for these attacks 71 00:03:30.534 --> 00:03:34.400 on America? Sen. 72 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.234 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Let me be very precise. 73 00:03:38.234 --> 00:03:42.000 NATO is on board, if it is shown -- and I think we'll be able to 74 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:45.400 show -- that this was an attack from beyond our shores. 75 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:49.200 That is, organized by-- it wasn't a domestic terrorist 76 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:53.100 action, which I think we'll be able to show with some clarity 77 00:03:53.100 --> 00:03:56.534 relatively soon, number one. 78 00:03:56.534 --> 00:04:00.000 Number two, NATO forces then have signed on to participating 79 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.634 with us in whatever action it takes to respond to 80 00:04:03.634 --> 00:04:07.000 this act of war. 81 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.367 Number three, it is very important if that does occur 82 00:04:10.367 --> 00:04:13.734 that we have the minimum the concurrence of and the support, 83 00:04:13.734 --> 00:04:17.100 if not in troops, the support of Putin in 84 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:20.467 Russia and the Chinese, 85 00:04:20.467 --> 00:04:24.534 as well as the moderate Arab states, because then the message 86 00:04:24.534 --> 00:04:28.100 sent from that point on, Charlie, around the world is any 87 00:04:28.100 --> 00:04:31.467 nation who harbors these kind of networks and organizations not 88 00:04:31.467 --> 00:04:34.467 only has to face the West, but is a pariah in the rest of the 89 00:04:34.467 --> 00:04:37.534 world, as well. 90 00:04:37.534 --> 00:04:40.467 That would be the single most significant step that will have 91 00:04:40.467 --> 00:04:43.601 ever occurred in dealing with network terrorism. 92 00:04:43.601 --> 00:04:46.434 We're never going to stop the guy who straps dynamite to his 93 00:04:46.434 --> 00:04:49.234 body and walks into a restaurant to implode himself. 94 00:04:49.234 --> 00:04:51.834 But we can -- we can -- stop this kind of network that is 95 00:04:51.834 --> 00:04:54.267 obviously sophisticated and obviously need to practice, 96 00:04:54.267 --> 00:04:56.968 obviously has camps, obviously has undertaken 97 00:04:56.968 --> 00:05:00.200 this for a long time. 98 00:05:00.200 --> 00:05:03.167 So this clearly means, as the president has 99 00:05:03.167 --> 00:05:05.868 suggested, that any country who harbors people who commit these 100 00:05:05.868 --> 00:05:08.400 kinds of acts should be held as responsible as the people who do 101 00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:13.100 the acts. Sen. 102 00:05:13.100 --> 00:05:15.334 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Absolutely. 103 00:05:15.334 --> 00:05:18.000 I remember being on your show, oh, a year and a half ago, 104 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.501 Charlie, and we talked about sovereignty. 105 00:05:20.501 --> 00:05:23.000 And I remember you asking me at the time did I think we had the 106 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.434 right to just unilaterally react against a country that had 107 00:05:25.434 --> 00:05:28.033 harbored someone. 108 00:05:28.033 --> 00:05:30.934 And that time, remember, there were attacks being taking place 109 00:05:30.934 --> 00:05:34.300 on Afghanistan. 110 00:05:34.300 --> 00:05:37.334 And I said to you at the time that I think the world is 111 00:05:37.334 --> 00:05:40.300 changed so that a nation forfeits its sovereignty when it 112 00:05:40.300 --> 00:05:43.033 harbors terrorists or treats terrorists with 113 00:05:43.033 --> 00:05:45.567 kindness and/or cover. 114 00:05:45.567 --> 00:05:48.033 And I think that this is beginning to be-- there's the 115 00:05:48.033 --> 00:05:50.467 possibility-- it's not done yet. 116 00:05:50.467 --> 00:05:53.200 It's not done yet. 117 00:05:53.200 --> 00:05:56.000 And if it doesn't get done, we're not going to wait for 118 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.801 multi-lateral response to this. 119 00:05:58.801 --> 00:06:01.901 We have many assets that we're fully capable of responding, and 120 00:06:01.901 --> 00:06:05.100 we will. 121 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:09.133 But there is the potential to build for the first time, 122 00:06:09.133 --> 00:06:12.868 Charlie, a consensus, where you take this notion of 123 00:06:12.868 --> 00:06:16.167 international terrorism out of the geopolitical dynamic, where, 124 00:06:16.167 --> 00:06:19.267 for example, the Russians have to be thinking ''Does it make 125 00:06:19.267 --> 00:06:22.234 sense for me to continue to fund a program for long-range 126 00:06:22.234 --> 00:06:25.033 missiles in Iran?'' 127 00:06:25.033 --> 00:06:27.734 The Chinese have to begin to question their own judgment 128 00:06:27.734 --> 00:06:30.501 about their relationship with Pakistan, and so on, because I 129 00:06:30.501 --> 00:06:33.100 can't believe that the Chinese leadership and the Russian 130 00:06:33.100 --> 00:06:35.534 leadership could not picture that aircraft flying into a 131 00:06:35.534 --> 00:06:37.868 building in Moscow or a large tower in Hong Kong, 132 00:06:37.868 --> 00:06:40.133 Shanghai or Beijing. 133 00:06:40.133 --> 00:06:42.567 They understand that this is not something that is 134 00:06:42.567 --> 00:06:44.868 controllable, and they're viewing it more like nation 135 00:06:44.868 --> 00:06:47.334 states than they are like people playing dominoes or playing 136 00:06:47.334 --> 00:06:50.067 chess with-- with what they view to be as 137 00:06:50.067 --> 00:06:52.667 their strategic opponents. 138 00:06:52.667 --> 00:06:55.501 There is a consensus growing here, and my hope and my 139 00:06:55.501 --> 00:06:58.167 expectation is that Secretary Powell will continue to be able 140 00:06:58.167 --> 00:07:00.901 to pursue this at the United Nations, as well as with the 141 00:07:00.901 --> 00:07:04.133 European Union, to begin to build this kind of consensus. 142 00:07:04.133 --> 00:07:07.334 In the meantime -- I want to make it clear -- in the 143 00:07:07.334 --> 00:07:10.567 meantime, the president need not wait. 144 00:07:10.567 --> 00:07:14.133 The president need not temper his -- take anything off the 145 00:07:14.133 --> 00:07:17.434 table, in terms of response to the action that has been taken 146 00:07:17.434 --> 00:07:20.868 against us if he feels he is able to clearly and 147 00:07:20.868 --> 00:07:24.167 unambiguously act in a way that will produce a result. 148 00:07:24.167 --> 00:07:27.167 But I think there's a real opportunity here, Charlie. 149 00:07:27.167 --> 00:07:30.067 And again, I conclude my point where I began it, and that is 150 00:07:30.067 --> 00:07:32.734 people are talking about this changes the way 151 00:07:32.734 --> 00:07:35.701 of life for Americans. 152 00:07:35.701 --> 00:07:39.000 If we change our way of life, they've won. 153 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.501 We should not change our way of life. 154 00:07:42.501 --> 00:07:45.634 I view this as the end, the beginning of the end of the 155 00:07:45.634 --> 00:07:48.801 ability of organized terrorist groups in large cells to be able 156 00:07:48.801 --> 00:07:51.701 to get the cover and succor of other nations and only be 157 00:07:51.701 --> 00:07:54.367 opposed by the West. 158 00:07:54.367 --> 00:07:56.868 You think this is the start of a serious war 159 00:07:56.868 --> 00:08:01.734 against terrorism. Sen. 160 00:08:01.734 --> 00:08:04.033 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): I believe it is. 161 00:08:04.033 --> 00:08:07.400 And God willing, it will be. 162 00:08:07.400 --> 00:08:10.767 And again, I want to compliment Secretary Powell for what I 163 00:08:10.767 --> 00:08:13.067 consider to be an extraordinarily deft move in 164 00:08:13.067 --> 00:08:15.334 being able to get NATO to take on for the first time in NATO's 165 00:08:15.334 --> 00:08:17.634 history-- this is the first time it's ever been done-- 166 00:08:17.634 --> 00:08:19.934 How close-- (crosstalk) How close, based on what 167 00:08:19.934 --> 00:08:22.234 you know, is the administration to having a 168 00:08:22.234 --> 00:08:24.501 provable case against 169 00:08:24.501 --> 00:08:27.767 an identifiable person, group of people 170 00:08:27.767 --> 00:08:33.167 responsible for these actions? Sen. 171 00:08:33.167 --> 00:08:36.334 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): As you know, the detail of that's 172 00:08:36.334 --> 00:08:38.968 classified, Charlie. 173 00:08:38.968 --> 00:08:41.601 But I would-- I don't think I'm violating any-- any secrecy here 174 00:08:41.601 --> 00:08:44.234 by saying very close to being able to make an overwhelming 175 00:08:44.234 --> 00:08:46.834 case, a case that would meet the standard that 176 00:08:46.834 --> 00:08:49.467 NATO set up, which 177 00:08:49.467 --> 00:08:52.300 is if it is determined. 178 00:08:52.300 --> 00:08:54.968 It might not meet a legal standard, beyond a reasonable 179 00:08:54.968 --> 00:08:57.801 doubt in a court of law, but this is war. 180 00:08:57.801 --> 00:09:00.767 This is not a law enforcement undertaking. 181 00:09:00.767 --> 00:09:04.100 That's an interesting point because some 182 00:09:04.100 --> 00:09:07.334 people have criticized the terrorism effort before, saying 183 00:09:07.334 --> 00:09:10.000 that administrations in the past have considered it a law 184 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.267 enforcement question, rather than a question of war, and 185 00:09:12.267 --> 00:09:14.200 therefore with all the 186 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:17.901 possibilities of state sponsorship. Sen. 187 00:09:17.901 --> 00:09:20.033 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Yeah. 188 00:09:20.033 --> 00:09:22.534 Well, I think that's true, but again, we have to make some very 189 00:09:22.534 --> 00:09:25.100 clear distinctions. 190 00:09:25.100 --> 00:09:28.234 Even in times of war, the civil liberties of Americans and the 191 00:09:28.234 --> 00:09:31.701 legal standard against Americans and/or people in this country 192 00:09:31.701 --> 00:09:35.167 have to be met in order to take them to trial. 193 00:09:35.167 --> 00:09:38.968 But that does not mean that we cannot take action abroad 194 00:09:38.968 --> 00:09:42.734 relative to our own national interest and our safety. 195 00:09:42.734 --> 00:09:46.234 And because-- Look, what's happened here, Charlie, is I 196 00:09:46.234 --> 00:09:49.968 think the analogy to Pearl Harbor is mis-- I don't think 197 00:09:49.968 --> 00:09:53.701 it's an appropriate analogy, other than it was a dastardly 198 00:09:53.701 --> 00:09:57.267 deed that was done in a cowardly way. 199 00:09:57.267 --> 00:10:00.734 But the analogy that this is like a war is real because the 200 00:10:00.734 --> 00:10:04.167 extent of the damage and the necessary sophistication and 201 00:10:04.167 --> 00:10:07.400 networking required, the dozens, if not hundreds of people 202 00:10:07.400 --> 00:10:10.701 required to pull this off could not have been done in the 203 00:10:10.701 --> 00:10:13.901 basement of some flat in some large city in Europe or the 204 00:10:13.901 --> 00:10:17.000 Mideast or anywhere else. 205 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.200 So there has to be complicitous parties here who have known. 206 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.434 And it's not sufficient-- for example, some countries are 207 00:10:23.434 --> 00:10:26.501 going to have to make some very difficult decisions. 208 00:10:26.501 --> 00:10:29.367 All the countries expressing sympathy -- and they all have -- 209 00:10:29.367 --> 00:10:32.133 have to have made it-- quit has to be very clear to them that 210 00:10:32.133 --> 00:10:34.701 they've got to choose sides now, particularly Pakistan. 211 00:10:34.701 --> 00:10:37.334 Pakistan has to decide. 212 00:10:37.334 --> 00:10:39.934 Pakistan has to decide where are they? 213 00:10:39.934 --> 00:10:42.367 Where are they? 214 00:10:42.367 --> 00:10:44.767 With whom do they stand? 215 00:10:44.767 --> 00:10:47.467 And the interesting thing about this, Charlie, is the rest of 216 00:10:47.467 --> 00:10:50.400 the world's going to have to line up here. 217 00:10:50.400 --> 00:10:53.367 And the same thing's going to happen in the Middle East. 218 00:10:53.367 --> 00:10:56.567 Arafat has to understand if he thinks he can continue to engage 219 00:10:56.567 --> 00:10:59.934 in not bringing this kind of activity on a smaller scale to a 220 00:10:59.934 --> 00:11:03.267 halt, or at least attempting to, in the West Bank, he is sadly 221 00:11:03.267 --> 00:11:06.567 mistaken about whether the sympathies of the West and the 222 00:11:06.567 --> 00:11:10.000 American people and, quite frankly, I think the world are. 223 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.267 And so I think this-- this is a Godawful way to present that-- 224 00:11:13.267 --> 00:11:16.434 what we've been presented with, the possibility -- the 225 00:11:16.434 --> 00:11:19.334 possibility -- of a larger resolution here. 226 00:11:19.334 --> 00:11:22.000 That does not in any way give solace. 227 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.934 I know. 228 00:11:24.934 --> 00:11:27.667 I've lost a wife. 229 00:11:27.667 --> 00:11:30.300 I've lost a child. 230 00:11:30.300 --> 00:11:32.801 I have some small notion of what it's like to 231 00:11:32.801 --> 00:11:35.601 get that phone call. 232 00:11:35.601 --> 00:11:38.501 I have some small notion of that. 233 00:11:38.501 --> 00:11:41.467 And so I know nothing, nothing good that comes from this, 234 00:11:41.467 --> 00:11:44.467 nothing, even if the best occurs and we really get our arms 235 00:11:44.467 --> 00:11:47.534 around the terrorist activities worldwide, will give any solace 236 00:11:47.534 --> 00:11:50.701 to any of the people who've lost loved ones here. 237 00:11:50.701 --> 00:11:53.934 But it is-- my mom has an expression: Out of every 238 00:11:53.934 --> 00:11:57.167 tragedy, something good may come if you look hard enough. 239 00:11:57.167 --> 00:11:59.868 This gives no solace to the people who have been injured. 240 00:11:59.868 --> 00:12:02.501 And right now, probably Americans are listening to me 241 00:12:02.501 --> 00:12:05.200 saying, ''Biden, why aren't you just talking about 242 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.901 the anger you feel?'' 243 00:12:07.901 --> 00:12:10.200 Well, I feel incredible anger about what's happened, but I 244 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:12.167 also feel that this is an opportunity, if we do it 245 00:12:12.167 --> 00:12:13.534 correctly -- and I like the way Powell's going about this-- 246 00:12:13.534 --> 00:12:16.300 Right. Sen. 247 00:12:16.300 --> 00:12:17.667 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): --that we may very well 248 00:12:17.667 --> 00:12:19.067 do something very, 249 00:12:19.067 --> 00:12:22.200 very good. Sen. 250 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:23.901 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Your assistants are saying to my 251 00:12:23.901 --> 00:12:25.434 colleagues that you have to go. 252 00:12:25.434 --> 00:12:29.033 But I got to get two questions in. Sen. 253 00:12:29.033 --> 00:12:30.734 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Sure. 254 00:12:30.734 --> 00:12:32.534 Do you believe that Osama bin Laden and his 255 00:12:32.534 --> 00:12:33.901 associates are responsible for 256 00:12:33.901 --> 00:12:35.300 these attacks? Sen. 257 00:12:35.300 --> 00:12:36.667 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): I don't-- 258 00:12:36.667 --> 00:12:38.067 Do you, Senator Biden, chairman of the Foreign 259 00:12:38.067 --> 00:12:39.467 Relations Committee, believe 260 00:12:39.467 --> 00:12:41.100 Osama bin Laden and his colleagues, 261 00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:45.634 associates are responsible? Sen. 262 00:12:45.634 --> 00:12:48.033 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): Because I have access to all the 263 00:12:48.033 --> 00:12:50.667 classified information, if I answer that either way, Charlie, 264 00:12:50.667 --> 00:12:53.167 it's going to be my violating-- I mean, it's going to be 265 00:12:53.167 --> 00:12:55.634 presumed it's based on information I've been given. 266 00:12:55.634 --> 00:12:58.367 So I'm going to-- I have to-- (crosstalk) 267 00:12:58.367 --> 00:13:01.067 OK, well let me ask the second question. 268 00:13:01.067 --> 00:13:03.968 Do you believe it's possible that someone could have carried 269 00:13:03.968 --> 00:13:06.734 these acts off with the precision of these four planes 270 00:13:06.734 --> 00:13:09.300 and perhaps more without having some relationship to the 271 00:13:09.300 --> 00:13:11.734 intelligence organizations of other states, like Iraq, like 272 00:13:11.734 --> 00:13:18.167 whoever you might choose? Sen. 273 00:13:18.167 --> 00:13:21.334 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): I won't mention any country, but I think 274 00:13:21.334 --> 00:13:24.367 it's very unlikely, virtually impossible, for an action like 275 00:13:24.367 --> 00:13:27.501 this to be carried off without at least the tacit assistance of 276 00:13:27.501 --> 00:13:30.334 another country. 277 00:13:30.334 --> 00:13:32.934 And by that you mean more than simply harboring 278 00:13:32.934 --> 00:13:35.501 them, but giving them information, helping train, 279 00:13:35.501 --> 00:13:40.501 whatever it might be. Sen. 280 00:13:40.501 --> 00:13:42.901 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): I don't want to comment beyond that. 281 00:13:42.901 --> 00:13:45.234 Not now, Charlie. 282 00:13:45.234 --> 00:13:48.067 I apologize. 283 00:13:48.067 --> 00:13:50.968 I know it's frustrating. 284 00:13:50.968 --> 00:13:54.200 But I apologize for not commenting beyond that. 285 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:57.534 Final question. 286 00:13:57.534 --> 00:14:00.601 Do you expect there might be military action sooner rather 287 00:14:00.601 --> 00:14:04.033 than later because of the velocity of the investigation 288 00:14:04.033 --> 00:14:07.767 and the provable facts as to the identity of those 289 00:14:07.767 --> 00:14:11.767 responsible? Sen. 290 00:14:11.767 --> 00:14:15.901 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): I think we may be in a position to move 291 00:14:15.901 --> 00:14:19.767 sooner than later, but I think if the coalition of the willing 292 00:14:19.767 --> 00:14:23.667 is pulling together, as I hope it is, there may be a decision 293 00:14:23.667 --> 00:14:27.067 made, even if we could go earlier, to go slightly later in 294 00:14:27.067 --> 00:14:30.133 order to bring to bear more of not just our assets but the 295 00:14:30.133 --> 00:14:32.934 world's assets against this organization. 296 00:14:32.934 --> 00:14:35.534 Senator Biden, thank you. 297 00:14:35.534 --> 00:14:38.200 I know you had to wait because of some technical problems, and 298 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:42.868 I thank you very much. Sen. 299 00:14:42.868 --> 00:14:44.634 >>JOSEPH BIDEN (D-DE): No, no. 300 00:14:44.634 --> 00:14:46.434 Don't-- don't apologize. 301 00:14:46.434 --> 00:14:48.167 I'm flattered you invited me on your show. 302 00:14:48.167 --> 00:14:49.667 Thank you. 303 00:14:49.667 --> 00:14:51.868 Thank you for coming. 304 00:14:51.868 --> 00:14:55.267 Senator Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate