WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.801 Good evening. 2 00:00:00.801 --> 00:00:03.133 I'm Anthony Mason filling in for Charlie Rose. 3 00:00:03.133 --> 00:00:06.667 Jesca Hoop is here, the California born, Manchester, England, 4 00:00:06.667 --> 00:00:09.000 based musician is best known for her raw and original 5 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:10.167 songwriting. 6 00:00:10.167 --> 00:00:13.667 Her new album, "Memories Are Now," is being called a return to 7 00:00:13.667 --> 00:00:18.367 her oddly structured songs and daring rhythmic turns. 8 00:00:18.367 --> 00:00:21.868 Rolling Stone Magazine writes, "Hoop has recaptured her quixotic 9 00:00:21.868 --> 00:00:25.367 romanticism, and it is swooningly lovely. 10 00:00:25.367 --> 00:00:39.434 Here is Jesca Hoop performing Pegasi in our studio. 11 00:00:39.434 --> 00:00:44.100 You've found a map to my heart, it led you to the 12 00:00:44.100 --> 00:00:45.267 well. 13 00:00:45.267 --> 00:00:47.634 You combed at my mane. 14 00:00:47.634 --> 00:00:51.133 I'll wear your saddle and reigns. 15 00:00:51.133 --> 00:00:57.000 With all these stars at my feet I'll stamp and tap the spring. 16 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:02.834 With my rider and mount I feel like spreading my wings. 17 00:01:02.834 --> 00:01:10.167 Take to the sky like poetry. 18 00:01:10.167 --> 00:01:12.501 When we're in love we're alive. 19 00:01:12.501 --> 00:01:16.000 You're the envy of the sky. 20 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:21.868 Every ember wants to ride the supernova. 21 00:01:21.868 --> 00:01:27.701 But I fear you'll see the day when I've endured all I can take. 22 00:01:27.701 --> 00:01:42.934 I won't bend but I will break under the weight. 23 00:01:42.934 --> 00:01:49.968 Because you broke within me what others could not tame, 24 00:01:49.968 --> 00:01:55.801 I'll summon the wind and do your bidding day by day. 25 00:01:55.801 --> 00:02:01.667 With your firm strong hand go steady towards the north. 26 00:02:01.667 --> 00:02:06.334 We are a thing of beauty lead by the fires of iron ore. 27 00:02:06.334 --> 00:02:14.534 Your good old girl was built to soar. 28 00:02:14.534 --> 00:02:16.868 When we're in love we're alive. 29 00:02:16.868 --> 00:02:20.367 You're the envy of the sky. 30 00:02:20.367 --> 00:02:26.234 Every ember wants to ride the supernova. 31 00:02:26.234 --> 00:02:33.267 But I fear you'll see the day when I've endured all I can take. 32 00:02:33.267 --> 00:02:39.100 I won't bend but I will break under the weight. 33 00:02:39.100 --> 00:03:00.167 Dying star, dying star, dying star. 34 00:03:00.167 --> 00:03:07.200 Though many love lit moons, I served my rider well. 35 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:11.901 I suffered the bit and took his spur into my side. 36 00:03:11.901 --> 00:03:20.067 Still I paid the price and I shook that bridle free, and my 37 00:03:20.067 --> 00:03:23.601 beloved rider fell from the stars into the sea. 38 00:03:23.601 --> 00:03:31.767 You're of the earth, I'm Pegasi. 39 00:03:31.767 --> 00:03:37.634 When we're in love we're alive, you're the envy of the sky. 40 00:03:37.634 --> 00:03:44.667 Every ember wants to ride the supernova. 41 00:03:44.667 --> 00:03:50.501 But I fear you'll see the day when I've endured all I can take. 42 00:03:50.501 --> 00:03:56.367 I won't bend but I will break under the weight. 43 00:03:56.367 --> 00:04:24.467 Dying star, dying star, dying star. 44 00:04:24.467 --> 00:04:25.634 And I am pleased to welcome Jesca Hoop to the 45 00:04:25.634 --> 00:04:26.934 table for the very first time. 46 00:04:26.934 --> 00:04:28.067 Welcome. 47 00:04:28.067 --> 00:04:29.133 Thank you so much for having me. 48 00:04:29.133 --> 00:04:31.467 It's great to have you here. 49 00:04:31.467 --> 00:04:33.801 The album, as we mentioned, is called "Memories Are Now." I love 50 00:04:33.801 --> 00:04:36.167 that title and I love that phrase. 51 00:04:36.167 --> 00:04:40.834 And you've said that that song is -- that title song is actually 52 00:04:40.834 --> 00:04:43.167 kind of a bit of medicine for you. 53 00:04:43.167 --> 00:04:44.367 It is. 54 00:04:44.367 --> 00:04:45.534 How so? 55 00:04:45.534 --> 00:04:52.534 When I started writing the songs I sort of thought 56 00:04:52.534 --> 00:04:56.067 -- I did think about it like lifting curses. 57 00:04:56.067 --> 00:04:59.567 Not that I am superstitious. 58 00:04:59.567 --> 00:05:00.901 Right. 59 00:05:00.901 --> 00:05:01.901 But I am romantic. 60 00:05:01.901 --> 00:05:05.434 So I approached it like lifting curses. 61 00:05:05.434 --> 00:05:08.934 And the title track, "Memories Are Now," is a cast of 62 00:05:08.934 --> 00:05:11.267 affirmations -- 63 00:05:11.267 --> 00:05:12.434 Right. 64 00:05:12.434 --> 00:05:13.801 -- that helped me work through blocks. 65 00:05:13.801 --> 00:05:14.801 Right. 66 00:05:14.801 --> 00:05:17.133 Part of the lyric is "I've learned enough life, I've earned my 67 00:05:17.133 --> 00:05:19.467 stripes, clear the way, I'm coming through. 68 00:05:19.467 --> 00:06:25.033 That's my knife in the ground. This is mine. 69 00:06:25.033 --> 00:06:28.567 You've had such an interesting path, which 70 00:06:28.567 --> 00:06:32.067 started in California; right, growing up in a Mormon family with 71 00:06:32.067 --> 00:06:34.400 four brothers and sisters. 72 00:06:34.400 --> 00:06:35.567 I'm in the middle of five. 73 00:06:35.567 --> 00:06:36.767 In the middle of five. 74 00:06:36.767 --> 00:06:37.934 And I broke the chain. 75 00:06:37.934 --> 00:06:39.100 You broke the chain. 76 00:06:39.100 --> 00:06:40.267 I did. 77 00:06:40.267 --> 00:06:41.434 How did you break the chain? 78 00:06:41.434 --> 00:06:44.934 I think good fortune. I met a friend. 79 00:06:44.934 --> 00:06:48.467 I met a friend who was my first chosen friend. 80 00:06:48.467 --> 00:06:50.801 My parents were also splitting at the time, so I kind of found 81 00:06:50.801 --> 00:06:53.300 out. I was going to church, like, every day. 82 00:06:53.300 --> 00:06:54.300 Yeah. 83 00:06:54.300 --> 00:06:56.634 Every day, and then sometimes twice a day. 84 00:06:56.634 --> 00:07:00.167 So that's all I knew. 85 00:07:00.167 --> 00:07:02.501 But then I started to see other things through other people. 86 00:07:02.501 --> 00:07:06.000 My first chosen friend, her name was Julie. 87 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.200 Yeah. 88 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:08.367 And her parents were atheists, and just this 89 00:07:08.367 --> 00:07:13.033 little seed of a thought entered, hey, I'm not supposed to be 90 00:07:13.033 --> 00:07:16.534 friends with people outside my church, but her parents are kind 91 00:07:16.534 --> 00:07:21.234 of okay, so why don't I give this a little bit more thought. 92 00:07:21.234 --> 00:07:24.734 And then I told my -- once they split, I told my parents, I was 93 00:07:24.734 --> 00:07:27.067 just like, "I'm not going to church anymore." 94 00:07:27.067 --> 00:07:28.267 Yeah. 95 00:07:28.267 --> 00:07:30.601 And they were interested in reestablishing their 96 00:07:30.601 --> 00:07:31.767 lives. 97 00:07:31.767 --> 00:07:32.934 You were how old at this point? 98 00:07:32.934 --> 00:07:36.434 I think I was 14. I was 14. 99 00:07:36.434 --> 00:07:37.601 That's a pretty big thought at 14. 100 00:07:37.601 --> 00:07:42.300 I'm capable of big thoughts. 101 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:45.801 But you end up -- you end up basically leaving 102 00:07:45.801 --> 00:07:46.968 home at what age? 103 00:07:46.968 --> 00:07:49.334 How old were you? 104 00:07:49.334 --> 00:07:50.501 Well I kind of came and went for a little while 105 00:07:50.501 --> 00:07:51.667 at 15. 106 00:07:51.667 --> 00:07:56.334 You know, when you're taught that life is this thing and then 107 00:07:56.334 --> 00:07:57.501 all of a sudden something completely different -- 108 00:07:57.501 --> 00:07:58.701 Comes along, yeah. 109 00:07:58.701 --> 00:07:59.868 Yeah. 110 00:07:59.868 --> 00:08:02.200 Then you find yourself navigating. 111 00:08:02.200 --> 00:08:03.200 Did you run out to find that? 112 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:04.534 Is that what you did? 113 00:08:04.534 --> 00:08:05.701 No. 114 00:08:05.701 --> 00:08:09.234 I just found myself in the throes of not understanding adult 115 00:08:09.234 --> 00:08:11.567 life at all. 116 00:08:11.567 --> 00:08:15.067 Were you already writing songs at this point. 117 00:08:15.067 --> 00:08:17.400 I had just started around that time. 118 00:08:17.400 --> 00:08:19.767 I think when my mother moved out and I started walking a longer 119 00:08:19.767 --> 00:08:24.434 stretch to school, I mean I had so much walking to do, so I was- 120 00:08:24.434 --> 00:08:25.734 Because you were staying with your dad. 121 00:08:25.734 --> 00:08:27.934 I was staying with my dad. 122 00:08:27.934 --> 00:08:29.100 Yeah. 123 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:31.467 And I had these long stretch, and I'd just 124 00:08:31.467 --> 00:08:36.133 entertain myself through making these really long drawn out, 125 00:08:36.133 --> 00:08:40.834 like, five songs in one song kind of, you know, non-structured, 126 00:08:40.834 --> 00:08:42.167 just rambling. 127 00:08:42.167 --> 00:08:43.167 Yeah. 128 00:08:43.167 --> 00:08:44.367 And melodies. 129 00:08:44.367 --> 00:08:45.501 Melodies? 130 00:08:45.501 --> 00:08:49.000 Yeah, I do remember concentrating on melodies, 131 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.200 because I didn't know anything about structure. 132 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:56.033 And there's no theory in my musicality, really, in my, you know, 133 00:08:56.033 --> 00:08:57.200 practice any anyway. 134 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:58.367 Right. 135 00:08:58.367 --> 00:09:00.734 I do have some technical training from my mother 136 00:09:00.734 --> 00:09:04.234 who was an amateur coloratura soprano. 137 00:09:04.234 --> 00:09:10.067 And from my childhood perspective, she was amazing. 138 00:09:10.067 --> 00:09:11.267 Yeah. 139 00:09:11.267 --> 00:09:13.601 And my father was a full conthusiest, so I was 140 00:09:13.601 --> 00:09:18.267 enthused with music from my family, and also from the church. 141 00:09:18.267 --> 00:09:24.133 And by the time I was, like, kind of no longer being paid 142 00:09:24.133 --> 00:09:27.634 attention to, you know, my parents were off doing their thing -- 143 00:09:27.634 --> 00:09:29.968 I was just doing lots of riding and skating, 144 00:09:29.968 --> 00:09:31.167 skateboard. 145 00:09:31.167 --> 00:09:32.400 I used to ride a skateboard. 146 00:09:32.400 --> 00:09:34.667 And just writing songs. 147 00:09:34.667 --> 00:09:37.000 Right. So you end up -- 148 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:41.701 15, or so, you start kind of going off to places. 149 00:09:41.701 --> 00:09:45.200 And then, I mean, you end up on the road working and living for 150 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:46.367 quite a while. 151 00:09:46.367 --> 00:09:48.701 After rambling for some time, I was in the 152 00:09:48.701 --> 00:09:52.234 wilderness for a while, working in a wilderness program, and I 153 00:09:52.234 --> 00:09:58.067 was like, thinking to myself, I'm not making use of what I feel 154 00:09:58.067 --> 00:10:03.934 is my strongest set of tools and what makes me the happiest, so 155 00:10:03.934 --> 00:10:08.601 I decided to climb off the mountain, high mountain desert, 156 00:10:08.601 --> 00:10:15.634 Arizona, and go back to California and start a band, fix up the 157 00:10:15.634 --> 00:10:16.968 house, and then go from there. 158 00:10:16.968 --> 00:10:17.968 And pursue music. 159 00:10:17.968 --> 00:10:21.467 But that was quite late. 160 00:10:21.467 --> 00:10:25.000 You end up getting a job at Tom Waits. 161 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.334 By some magical means. 162 00:10:27.334 --> 00:10:29.667 As his nanny to his three kids, and his wife's 163 00:10:29.667 --> 00:10:31.000 three kids. 164 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.534 It is true, and a very, very long time ago. 165 00:10:35.534 --> 00:10:40.200 And to be honest with you, I don't really speak about it, 166 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.734 because I find that the most precious things you need to hold in 167 00:10:43.734 --> 00:10:44.934 a quiet place. 168 00:10:44.934 --> 00:10:46.200 I understand. 169 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.734 You have said, I think, that there were a couple people who 170 00:10:50.734 --> 00:10:54.267 really, at key moments, were like stones that you climbed onto 171 00:10:54.267 --> 00:10:55.434 in the water. 172 00:10:55.434 --> 00:10:56.601 Yes. 173 00:10:56.601 --> 00:10:58.934 And that was one of those moments. 174 00:10:58.934 --> 00:10:59.934 Yes. 175 00:10:59.934 --> 00:11:04.801 I was very, very fortunate that my path crossed with some 176 00:11:04.801 --> 00:11:07.133 amazing people who helped me. 177 00:11:07.133 --> 00:11:11.801 I was just this -- I was a country kid who had no vision of a 178 00:11:11.801 --> 00:11:16.501 bridge, how to build a bridge between this rural living and the 179 00:11:16.501 --> 00:11:21.167 stages around the world, or even a way to make a record. 180 00:11:21.167 --> 00:11:27.033 So in those early days I was very fortunate to meet some amazing 181 00:11:27.033 --> 00:11:30.534 people who helped me get started on right path for the 182 00:11:30.534 --> 00:11:32.868 long game. 183 00:11:32.868 --> 00:11:34.067 Yeah. 184 00:11:34.067 --> 00:11:35.234 He put in a good word for your music. 185 00:11:35.234 --> 00:11:37.567 He said your music is like going swimming in a lake at night, 186 00:11:37.567 --> 00:11:39.901 which is a wonderful image. 187 00:11:39.901 --> 00:11:43.400 You ended up getting a lot of exposure also on a California 188 00:11:43.400 --> 00:11:49.267 station, KCRW, Seed of Wonder particularly, got a lot of notice. 189 00:11:49.267 --> 00:11:52.767 That's actually where -- I was trying to figure 190 00:11:52.767 --> 00:11:56.300 out where to move, and I had recorded this little batch of 191 00:11:56.300 --> 00:11:57.467 songs. 192 00:11:57.467 --> 00:12:02.133 And my publisher, who has been with me now for 12 years, back 193 00:12:02.133 --> 00:12:06.834 then, before he signed me, he sent my first recordings to Nick 194 00:12:06.834 --> 00:12:09.167 Harcourt at KCRW. 195 00:12:09.167 --> 00:12:10.334 And I was sleeping in my van. 196 00:12:10.334 --> 00:12:11.501 I was saving money -- 197 00:12:11.501 --> 00:12:12.501 Yeah. 198 00:12:12.501 --> 00:12:13.834 -- so I was sleeping in my van, and I was going to 199 00:12:13.834 --> 00:12:16.200 move to either New York or L.A. 200 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.868 And Nick Harcourt calls me and said people want to know about 201 00:12:20.868 --> 00:12:22.033 this six-and-a-half minute weird song. 202 00:12:22.033 --> 00:12:23.200 Yeah. 203 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:24.367 And so I moved. 204 00:12:24.367 --> 00:12:25.567 I just went where the going was going. 205 00:12:25.567 --> 00:12:26.767 Yeah. 206 00:12:26.767 --> 00:12:27.901 And I went to L.A. 207 00:12:27.901 --> 00:12:31.400 Where did that take you, when you started to 208 00:12:31.400 --> 00:12:33.734 get some attention from that song? 209 00:12:33.734 --> 00:12:37.267 It's strange, because it kind of took me from an 210 00:12:37.267 --> 00:12:39.601 open door to shut doors and -- 211 00:12:39.601 --> 00:12:40.767 Interesting. 212 00:12:40.767 --> 00:12:44.267 You know, my passage has been -- it's been like a 213 00:12:44.267 --> 00:12:48.968 kind of a bloom that's kind of like this, and it's a very slow 214 00:12:48.968 --> 00:12:50.234 burning. 215 00:12:50.234 --> 00:12:51.300 Right. 216 00:12:51.300 --> 00:12:52.467 Burning fire. 217 00:12:52.467 --> 00:12:57.167 But it took me to L.A., where I lived all around the city, and 218 00:12:57.167 --> 00:12:59.501 to building a network of musicians. 219 00:12:59.501 --> 00:13:03.000 It took me to Tony Berg, who helped me make my first three 220 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.167 records. 221 00:13:04.167 --> 00:13:05.334 Right. 222 00:13:05.334 --> 00:13:11.200 The second stone that you said you climbed up on was when you 223 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.701 got a phone call from the lead singer of the band Elbow. 224 00:13:14.701 --> 00:13:18.234 I'm actually going to say my first stone was my 225 00:13:18.234 --> 00:13:20.567 publisher, Len Conway, and my second stone was Tony Berg. 226 00:13:20.567 --> 00:13:21.868 Okay. 227 00:13:21.868 --> 00:13:25.234 Because it's very important to note that the work 228 00:13:25.234 --> 00:13:26.400 is the most important thing. 229 00:13:26.400 --> 00:13:31.100 Celebrity and musicians and friends and endorsements is all 230 00:13:31.100 --> 00:13:32.267 good, but it's nothing without the people that help you get to 231 00:13:32.267 --> 00:13:33.434 work with. 232 00:13:33.434 --> 00:13:34.601 Yeah. That's true, yeah. 233 00:13:34.601 --> 00:13:35.767 But he called me up. 234 00:13:35.767 --> 00:13:38.133 We did this interview, and that led to a friendship. 235 00:13:38.133 --> 00:13:41.634 And you end up in Manchester, England, where 236 00:13:41.634 --> 00:13:42.801 Elbow, the band, is from. 237 00:13:42.801 --> 00:13:45.133 Yeah. They kind of rule over there. 238 00:13:45.133 --> 00:13:46.300 Uh-huh, they do. 239 00:13:46.300 --> 00:13:47.501 They do. They do. 240 00:13:47.501 --> 00:13:48.667 It's pretty awesome. 241 00:13:48.667 --> 00:13:51.000 That's quite a switch. 242 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.334 It's a total switch, and a complete culture, and I 243 00:13:53.334 --> 00:13:58.033 had no idea what I was really in for. 244 00:13:58.033 --> 00:14:02.701 I mean, in a small way, in my own personal way, I had no idea 245 00:14:02.701 --> 00:14:06.200 what I was giving up moving from California to Manchester. 246 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.567 It was a difficult adjustment at first. 247 00:14:08.567 --> 00:14:10.901 It was, yeah. I mean, it was so exciting. 248 00:14:10.901 --> 00:14:14.400 I had no ties and I had fallen in love, and I was -- and I 249 00:14:14.400 --> 00:14:20.267 thought -- and it is true that working in England is a -- it's 250 00:14:20.267 --> 00:14:22.601 -- I don't know. 251 00:14:22.601 --> 00:14:28.467 It's smaller and it assists you in some ways in its smallness. 252 00:14:28.467 --> 00:14:30.801 Because it feels more intimate, more -- 253 00:14:30.801 --> 00:14:31.968 It's easier to reach. 254 00:14:31.968 --> 00:14:33.133 Yeah. 255 00:14:33.133 --> 00:14:35.467 The United States is so big and to reach the 256 00:14:35.467 --> 00:14:37.801 different markets, for lack of a better word, to reach your 257 00:14:37.801 --> 00:14:40.167 people it's harder, because they're everywhere and they're 258 00:14:40.167 --> 00:14:41.400 spread out. 259 00:14:41.400 --> 00:14:42.501 Yeah. 260 00:14:42.501 --> 00:14:46.000 And so in England they're tied together by a few 261 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.167 sources rather than so many. 262 00:14:47.167 --> 00:14:53.033 So I was excited to go and take another crack at building on 263 00:14:53.033 --> 00:14:57.701 this music thing, and after hitting some walls in the States. 264 00:14:57.701 --> 00:15:04.734 And then I just realized we speak the same language but this is 265 00:15:04.734 --> 00:15:07.067 not the same country. 266 00:15:07.067 --> 00:15:08.234 We're so different. 267 00:15:08.234 --> 00:15:09.434 We're so different. 268 00:15:09.434 --> 00:15:11.767 I've been there for ten years now. 269 00:15:11.767 --> 00:15:12.767 Yeah. 270 00:15:12.767 --> 00:15:14.100 Is there much of Manchester in your music? 271 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:16.434 I don't know. I don't know. 272 00:15:16.434 --> 00:15:21.133 I wrote this whole record in Manchester, and nowhere else. 273 00:15:21.133 --> 00:15:26.968 It all came in my little house in Manchester. 274 00:15:26.968 --> 00:15:29.334 But I can't tell. 275 00:15:29.334 --> 00:15:32.834 You did this record with Blake Mills, who is a 276 00:15:32.834 --> 00:15:34.167 terrific guitarist and great producer. 277 00:15:34.167 --> 00:15:35.167 Absolutely. 278 00:15:35.167 --> 00:15:42.200 And where were you going with this new record? 279 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:46.868 Well, with the writing I was -- someone called the 280 00:15:46.868 --> 00:15:50.400 other day, an album of protest songs. 281 00:15:50.400 --> 00:15:52.734 I think that's because we're in the spirit of it. 282 00:15:52.734 --> 00:15:54.067 Yes. 283 00:15:54.067 --> 00:15:57.400 But when I began to take that on board, I thought, 284 00:15:57.400 --> 00:16:02.100 you're right, every song is confrontational, in a gentle way, I 285 00:16:02.100 --> 00:16:03.267 think. 286 00:16:03.267 --> 00:16:06.767 Some of it is confrontational with yourself. 287 00:16:06.767 --> 00:16:07.934 Yes. 288 00:16:07.934 --> 00:16:11.467 Memories are now is me battling with my own doubts, you know, or 289 00:16:11.467 --> 00:16:14.968 my own willingness to give up. 290 00:16:14.968 --> 00:16:17.300 Which you clearly haven't done. 291 00:16:17.300 --> 00:16:19.634 I won't. I won't. 292 00:16:19.634 --> 00:16:22.000 I think it's a mean joke, too, sometimes when they tell you not 293 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.334 to give up. 294 00:16:24.334 --> 00:16:29.000 They tell you if you just hang in there. 295 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.367 I don't know. I think it's a mean joke. 296 00:16:31.367 --> 00:16:34.834 But where we were going with this record, I gave a lot of that 297 00:16:34.834 --> 00:16:36.000 over to Blake. 298 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.534 I wanted to see where see where he would guide the process, and 299 00:16:39.534 --> 00:16:43.033 I really gave so much over. 300 00:16:43.033 --> 00:16:45.367 And he wanted to strip it way back down. 301 00:16:45.367 --> 00:16:48.901 It is easy for you to give over to a producer? 302 00:16:48.901 --> 00:16:50.067 Yeah. 303 00:16:50.067 --> 00:16:53.567 Because I want to be used like raw material. 304 00:16:53.567 --> 00:16:55.901 Interesting. 305 00:16:55.901 --> 00:16:59.434 I want to be -- I want to enter in and be 306 00:16:59.434 --> 00:17:04.100 malleable and see what someone else can draw out of me. 307 00:17:04.100 --> 00:17:06.434 I'm always really wanting that. 308 00:17:06.434 --> 00:17:09.968 I perform, I think, my best when it's being asked of me. 309 00:17:09.968 --> 00:17:14.634 I think that's the Mormon in me, the religious little girl. 310 00:17:14.634 --> 00:17:15.801 And what do you think came out this time? 311 00:17:15.801 --> 00:17:18.167 Of this record? 312 00:17:18.167 --> 00:17:19.167 Yes. 313 00:17:19.167 --> 00:17:21.667 Well I think it's very confidence building. 314 00:17:21.667 --> 00:17:26.334 This one feels like -- and I can't say it's perfect. 315 00:17:26.334 --> 00:17:28.667 I don't necessarily believe in perfection. 316 00:17:28.667 --> 00:17:33.367 But I think I'm communicating very clearly, and in ways that I 317 00:17:33.367 --> 00:17:36.868 haven't before, and also about things that I'm passionate about. 318 00:17:36.868 --> 00:17:38.033 That's got to feel good. 319 00:17:38.033 --> 00:17:39.234 Yeah. 320 00:17:39.234 --> 00:17:41.567 I'm particularly pleased with the last song. 321 00:17:41.567 --> 00:17:45.067 And someone the other day in an interview called it harsh on 322 00:17:45.067 --> 00:17:46.234 religion. 323 00:17:46.234 --> 00:17:47.501 The coming. 324 00:17:47.501 --> 00:17:48.567 I don't consider it harsh. 325 00:17:48.567 --> 00:17:52.100 I consider some of the things that it's addressing harsh. 326 00:17:52.100 --> 00:18:00.300 And by any stretch of the imagination is my address any less 327 00:18:00.300 --> 00:18:02.634 than appropriate. 328 00:18:02.634 --> 00:18:06.133 The album is "Memories Are Now." Jessica Hoop, 329 00:18:06.133 --> 00:18:07.300 thank you so much for being here. 330 00:18:07.300 --> 00:18:08.467 My pleasure. 331 00:18:08.467 --> 00:18:10.834 We leave you with another tune from the album. 332 00:18:10.834 --> 00:18:22.534 Here is "Songs of Old." 333 00:18:22.534 --> 00:18:29.267 Turn the key in the iron lock of the old oak door. 334 00:18:29.267 --> 00:18:37.467 Lean into its passages with all my weight and enter. 335 00:18:37.467 --> 00:18:46.834 Immediately my olfactory senses, it's home, paper thin and 336 00:18:46.834 --> 00:18:55.000 paraffin with a glimmering gold. 337 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:00.868 Marble hands are pouring water. 338 00:19:00.868 --> 00:19:07.901 Silver wings deliver wishes. 339 00:19:07.901 --> 00:19:13.734 Streams of colored light make hallow home. 340 00:19:13.734 --> 00:19:20.501 Mama's singing the songs of old. 341 00:19:20.501 --> 00:19:24.000 Mama's singing the songs of old. 342 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.701 Singing the rock of ages. 343 00:19:28.701 --> 00:19:36.868 Though the gold is marred by red, singing the rock of ages. 344 00:19:36.868 --> 00:19:41.567 Melt it down and make it new things. 345 00:19:41.567 --> 00:19:46.234 Singing the rock of ages. 346 00:19:46.234 --> 00:19:54.434 Empires are made this way, singing the rock of ages. 347 00:19:54.434 --> 00:19:59.133 Heyaya yaya yaya. 348 00:19:59.133 --> 00:20:03.801 Heyaya heya ayah. 349 00:20:03.801 --> 00:20:07.300 Heyaya yaya. 350 00:20:07.300 --> 00:20:22.534 Hey yaya yaya. 351 00:20:22.534 --> 00:20:29.534 Endless hopes and endless fears polish this stone. 352 00:20:29.534 --> 00:20:34.234 The deeper desire, the fine of the grain, this time I walk the 353 00:20:34.234 --> 00:20:37.734 stairway. 354 00:20:37.734 --> 00:20:41.267 And turn the key in the cellar door. 355 00:20:41.267 --> 00:20:56.467 I want to know why. 356 00:20:56.467 --> 00:21:07.000 All these stories never spoken, danced or drawn or sung or 357 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:21.067 written, how we built this temple song by song. 358 00:21:21.067 --> 00:21:28.067 Mama's singing the songs of old. 359 00:21:28.067 --> 00:21:36.267 Mama's singing the songs of old, singing the rock of ages. 360 00:21:36.267 --> 00:21:45.634 Though the gold is marred by red, singing the rock of ages. 361 00:21:45.634 --> 00:21:53.834 Melting down and make new things, singing the rock of ages. 362 00:21:53.834 --> 00:22:02.033 Empires are made this way, singing the rock of ages. 363 00:22:02.033 --> 00:22:11.567 Mama's singing the songs of old, singing the rock of ages. 364 00:22:11.567 --> 00:22:20.734 Though the gold is marred by red, singing the rock of ages. 365 00:22:20.734 --> 00:22:28.934 Melt them down and make new things, singing the rock of ages. 366 00:22:28.934 --> 00:22:37.133 An empire is made this way, singing the rock of ages. 367 00:22:37.133 --> 00:22:46.501 Heyyaya yaya, heyyaya. 368 00:22:46.501 --> 00:22:53.534 Heyaya yaya, heyyaya. 369 00:22:53.534 --> 00:23:02.868 Heyyay yaya, heyyaya. 370 00:23:02.868 --> 00:23:06.901 Heyyaya. 371 00:23:06.901 --> 00:23:12.234 Heyyaya yaya. 372 00:23:12.234 --> 00:23:15.234 Heyyayayaya.